PATER
NOSTER, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat
voluntas tua, sicut in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis
hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus
nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Amen.
How about
on;
THE SEPARATION OF THE CHURCH AND STATE.
Just some loose thoughts on the topic without particular order.
THE SEPARATION OF THE CHURCH AND STATE.
Just some loose thoughts on the topic without particular order.
Let start with
the newest and greatest from the politics of failing Amurican Empire. So our
"Amurican" friends managed to elect what they thought to be the only
hope, the faint chance to save the hapless collection of States in deep
distress. And technically they were right considering the other choice. In
other words, it was not a choice, but an absolute necessity. The normal part of
humanity rejoiced, deranged lefties of course are still protesting. The start,
the first few weeks of Trump presidency did a great deal to confirm this
"hope", but as I said long time before elections; " The only
chance for the USA is to elect Mr. Trump, but unfortunately he is not, and
cannot possibly be the saviour everybody wishes for".
1.
On one side the "cards" are now stacked against him on every level. Be
it economic or political issues. the fact is that the post Christian USA is not saveable in
the present form. Anybody who has a basic understanding of history knows that
at this point only a good old glorious civil war can bring the desired long
term change. The result still might be called "the USA" but the
concept of this new construct would be entirely different. The geography,
the border lines would most likely change too.
2.
If anybody likes it or not it is Mr.Trump's RIP make up his presidency. That of
course applies to any "President", be it Hussein Obama or wild rapist
Billy. And the negative parts of it are starting to show. I am not talking
about all those issues which offends the deranged left. Those are mostly good things. As a matter of fact, more average Lefty morons get offended, more one knows he told the truth. I
am talking here about major issues like selection of the TEAM. As good as it looked
from the beginning the cracks are starting to appear.
Article from the www.jihadwatch.org (check this webpage regularly)
WASHINGTON
— President Trump’s newly appointed national security adviser has told his
staff that Muslims who commit terrorist acts are perverting their religion,
rejecting a key ideological view of other senior Trump advisers and signaling a
potentially more moderate approach to the Islamic world.
The
adviser, Lt. Gen. H. R. McMaster, told the staff of the National Security
Council on Thursday, in his first “all hands” staff meeting, that the label
“radical Islamic terrorism” was not helpful because terrorists are
“un-Islamic,” according to people who were in the meeting.
That is a
repudiation of the language regularly used by both the president and General
McMaster’s predecessor, Michael T. Flynn, who resigned last week after
admitting that he had misled Vice President Mike Pence and other officials
about a phone call with a Russian diplomat.
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So this
is his new "Adviser on the matters of National security”? Considering that
the threat of Islamo – sheep shaggers is the biggest danger to the Western
Civilization …..well, since the last time around at the gates of Vienna, it is
downright incomprehensible why exactly he chose that uneducated politically correct moron. And yes, even the 3-star
general could be a moron, sadly most are, thanks to the process of promoting them for
many decades strictly based on political considerations. The good ones get pushed into obscurity,
.....the political types, .....the yes men, get promoted. Probably the most obvious was Gen.
Eisenhower, rather mediocre military specimen pushed into glory by twisted politics,
and Gen. Patton, real military expert, ultimately after all that hassle pushed by the convenience of the 3t truck into
quiet retirement in the cemetery.
Interesting choice isn't it?
Interesting choice isn't it?
If this
means that Trump is embracing a “safe” position on dealing with Islam, the game
is over. His selection of Mad Dog Mattis for his top General Secretary of Defense
is another major problem in waiting. And yes, most …muricans would not agree.
They see hero, I see a guy frozen in time which passed long time ago. The Cold war is over, the Soviets are mostly frying in hell or are irrelevant on their way to hell. He is rabidly
anti Russian anything. The poor Russians are trying desperately to extend hand
of friendship to Amurica for a few decades now, but brainwashed politicians with Globalist agenda (McCain),
generals and majority of population just cannot get it.
What is worse they keep spitting into the extended hand, and Ruskies who are attached by ownership to that hand are getting tired of it. You could wash the spit from your hand only so often, and then you get this desire to implement a good slap over the filthy mouth. This reject of the Cold War Mattis did not notice that Russians and Soviets are two different separate things. That the Russians were the first, and biggest victim of the Soviets. He evidently missed the point when after the fall of the Soviet Empire it was the USA which did their utmost to prevent Russia to become a viable country. It was downright criminal what Americans, yes not only the government but American companies did to them. Mr. Putin put stop to it, he threw American/Rothschild’s banks, Soros and his criminal gang out of Russia…….and that is why we supposed to hate him. Mr. Putin rebuild Russia to “Superpower” status if anybody likes it or not. That is exactly why Russians elected him. He is the leader of HIS country, leader we can only dream about. And no, he did not take Crimea by force, it was the 95% of Crimean’s who voted in referendum to go back to Russia where they belong. Check the history. The Crimea always belonged to Russia, well at least till that jolly fellow Nikita Chruschev, the First secretary and Ukrainian who liked to vacation there, took it from them back in 60s.
Hey, that criminal Clinton bombed Serbia (blatant war crime) to take their territory of Kosovo from them. Funny, the Kosovo Muslim minority apparently had the right to “self-determination”, but Crimean Russians do not. The Double standard, of worst kind, one would rightfully say.
What is worse they keep spitting into the extended hand, and Ruskies who are attached by ownership to that hand are getting tired of it. You could wash the spit from your hand only so often, and then you get this desire to implement a good slap over the filthy mouth. This reject of the Cold War Mattis did not notice that Russians and Soviets are two different separate things. That the Russians were the first, and biggest victim of the Soviets. He evidently missed the point when after the fall of the Soviet Empire it was the USA which did their utmost to prevent Russia to become a viable country. It was downright criminal what Americans, yes not only the government but American companies did to them. Mr. Putin put stop to it, he threw American/Rothschild’s banks, Soros and his criminal gang out of Russia…….and that is why we supposed to hate him. Mr. Putin rebuild Russia to “Superpower” status if anybody likes it or not. That is exactly why Russians elected him. He is the leader of HIS country, leader we can only dream about. And no, he did not take Crimea by force, it was the 95% of Crimean’s who voted in referendum to go back to Russia where they belong. Check the history. The Crimea always belonged to Russia, well at least till that jolly fellow Nikita Chruschev, the First secretary and Ukrainian who liked to vacation there, took it from them back in 60s.
Hey, that criminal Clinton bombed Serbia (blatant war crime) to take their territory of Kosovo from them. Funny, the Kosovo Muslim minority apparently had the right to “self-determination”, but Crimean Russians do not. The Double standard, of worst kind, one would rightfully say.
At the beginning
Trump was talking sense when it comes to Russia, but he evidently caved to the
pressure from the Left and his wrongly chosen advisors. Remember he actually
was talking to be friends with Russia for a change. By the way Putin is asking Americans
for help, to create the unified front to defeat Islamo-sheep shaggers ones for
all, for a few years now…….why the lack of resolve and downright criminal politicking with the
safety of the own citizenry, even on the side of this new Trump administration?
Some say that I
have an accent even while typing………live with it, or read something else. :o)
If you were wondering why I am writing about it....well, the above rather nicely demonstrates the total impossibility of the idea of
If you were wondering why I am writing about it....well, the above rather nicely demonstrates the total impossibility of the idea of
the Separation of the Church and State .
Where
this rather often twisted misconstrued idea actually came from? Well of course from the wealth of the Protestant
very illogical RIP.
The
funniest part is; every American and Canadian think that this is something well
entrenched in the “Constitution” …….and that is a product of a not so pretty end of
the digestive system of champion size Bull.
Check it out, it is not there. Closest we could say Mr. T. Jefferson is the originator of this idea in one of his letters (Jan.1.1802 to the Danbury Baptist association in Connecticut), based of course on his Free Masonic protestant ideology. It is rather peculiar how otherwise very intelligent man can get it so horribly wrong. Well, he did not get it wrong in a basic idea (protection of Church against the intrusion of the state) as much as he failed to see ahead.....to connect the dots, to clarify, to make sure it cannot be twisted around........Of course that is again general after the battle talking.
Hence sometimes being very smart does not guarantee ultimate success in the long term. We often fail to account for all possibilities. And more pronounced this fault becomes as we are getting farther and farther from our founding RIP. We downright loose the ability to see.
Examples from Funny Facts of history:
the most educated PhD. type El Presidente in the American history was Woodrow Wilson, and we can safely say that his presidency was an unmitigated disaster. The guy was our Canadian Stephane highly educated yet such an idiot Dion, who tried one time to be our Prime minister, but we dodged that bullet.....just to get utter childish imbecile with great hair few years later.
One of Woody's “brilliant” ideas;
he is the inventor/father of the concept/ideology of Fascism as a "new and better" version of socialism.. Those free wheeling Italians only gave it that spiffy name, not to mention sleek black shirt uniforms every fashionista of the day would dream about. All that only after Benito learned all the niceties of the system from "brother" Wilson. Both ended miserably, Benito experienced serious lead poisoning, and poor Woody died demented from syphilis. Kind of ironic, since he fancied himself an intellectual.
The least educated president of the USA was Abe Lincoln, about a year of formal education, and we can quite safely say that he did accomplish something.
But back to original thought;
Most of all it was very rightfully intended as the protection of Church against the interference of the State. The "fearless" leaders of all kinds quite often have this rather satanic desire to control the Church, to submit it to their will, and so to control people more efficiently. Henry VIII and his very own church of England, Eastern Orthodox church........strictly controlled by the Man.
Where Mr. Jefferson and most of his compatriots failed is to realise that this could easily be reverted to rather twisted illogical idea of; "Preventing the church to take over the State". Idiotic idea only a retarded socialists could come up with as believers, and the folks who are in control of these socialists use it as a great and fairly successful tool to attack the Church. Sadly it is rather easy, due to fact that most are not quite capable to distinguish that the Church is really not the building, or even the organisation as such, the Church is in the full true meaning the RIP.....rather intangible concept.....most of the time they know nothing about. Not to mention if the Church would have the ambition to take over the "secular" world, why they didn't do it back few hundred years when majority of "leaders" and population was actually Catholic? Why did they wait till 1960s to push this takeover of government idea? OK, that is utter nonsense, but that is what most lefty morons believe.
Uncle Joe aka. Stalin learned that one hard way. Soviets used perfectly good dynamite to blow up churches. In the end they had no dynamite, no churches,...... but the Christian Church was still there in Mother Russia. Even Soviets, and those guys were no amateurs like the westerners of today, could not do it.
No "subscriber" could possibly separate himself from it (his RIP), just because he was elected to an office. It is deep inside of his conscience, and will for ever affect every even ever so miniscule decision in his life. Of course he could choose to ignore his conscience for pure political reasons, but in that case unless he is a psychopath (as a politician most likely he is) he still will know that he did wrong. And tickets for ride to Hell are fairly cheap. He could only replace one with another. The real intended target of course is the Catholic Church as holder of the ABSOLUTE TRUTH and the only real Church and life philosophy/ideology/religion.
Because Mr. Jefferson and his gang were all Protestants (no concept of absolute truth) they could not/failed to connect the dots. And that coincidentally did lead to another major failure. This time to one which actually made it to the Constitution of the USA. Yes, that little blurb about the "Freedom of religion". Although they were very much aware of Islam, and fairly well educated on the topic, they failed to see that the State cannot possibly grant the "Freedom of Religion" to any religion, which has only one goal; to destroy the host State.
Yes, I am still talking about Islam here. They, the Founding fathers failed to make the distinction. Probably just an omission, but forward 200 years, incredibly costly omission. Isn't it crazy to give a convicted pedophile rapist and murderer freedom to roam local parks, because after all everybody else has that "freedom".
Check it out, it is not there. Closest we could say Mr. T. Jefferson is the originator of this idea in one of his letters (Jan.1.1802 to the Danbury Baptist association in Connecticut), based of course on his Free Masonic protestant ideology. It is rather peculiar how otherwise very intelligent man can get it so horribly wrong. Well, he did not get it wrong in a basic idea (protection of Church against the intrusion of the state) as much as he failed to see ahead.....to connect the dots, to clarify, to make sure it cannot be twisted around........Of course that is again general after the battle talking.
Hence sometimes being very smart does not guarantee ultimate success in the long term. We often fail to account for all possibilities. And more pronounced this fault becomes as we are getting farther and farther from our founding RIP. We downright loose the ability to see.
Examples from Funny Facts of history:
the most educated PhD. type El Presidente in the American history was Woodrow Wilson, and we can safely say that his presidency was an unmitigated disaster. The guy was our Canadian Stephane highly educated yet such an idiot Dion, who tried one time to be our Prime minister, but we dodged that bullet.....just to get utter childish imbecile with great hair few years later.
One of Woody's “brilliant” ideas;
he is the inventor/father of the concept/ideology of Fascism as a "new and better" version of socialism.. Those free wheeling Italians only gave it that spiffy name, not to mention sleek black shirt uniforms every fashionista of the day would dream about. All that only after Benito learned all the niceties of the system from "brother" Wilson. Both ended miserably, Benito experienced serious lead poisoning, and poor Woody died demented from syphilis. Kind of ironic, since he fancied himself an intellectual.
The least educated president of the USA was Abe Lincoln, about a year of formal education, and we can quite safely say that he did accomplish something.
But back to original thought;
Most of all it was very rightfully intended as the protection of Church against the interference of the State. The "fearless" leaders of all kinds quite often have this rather satanic desire to control the Church, to submit it to their will, and so to control people more efficiently. Henry VIII and his very own church of England, Eastern Orthodox church........strictly controlled by the Man.
Where Mr. Jefferson and most of his compatriots failed is to realise that this could easily be reverted to rather twisted illogical idea of; "Preventing the church to take over the State". Idiotic idea only a retarded socialists could come up with as believers, and the folks who are in control of these socialists use it as a great and fairly successful tool to attack the Church. Sadly it is rather easy, due to fact that most are not quite capable to distinguish that the Church is really not the building, or even the organisation as such, the Church is in the full true meaning the RIP.....rather intangible concept.....most of the time they know nothing about. Not to mention if the Church would have the ambition to take over the "secular" world, why they didn't do it back few hundred years when majority of "leaders" and population was actually Catholic? Why did they wait till 1960s to push this takeover of government idea? OK, that is utter nonsense, but that is what most lefty morons believe.
Uncle Joe aka. Stalin learned that one hard way. Soviets used perfectly good dynamite to blow up churches. In the end they had no dynamite, no churches,...... but the Christian Church was still there in Mother Russia. Even Soviets, and those guys were no amateurs like the westerners of today, could not do it.
No "subscriber" could possibly separate himself from it (his RIP), just because he was elected to an office. It is deep inside of his conscience, and will for ever affect every even ever so miniscule decision in his life. Of course he could choose to ignore his conscience for pure political reasons, but in that case unless he is a psychopath (as a politician most likely he is) he still will know that he did wrong. And tickets for ride to Hell are fairly cheap. He could only replace one with another. The real intended target of course is the Catholic Church as holder of the ABSOLUTE TRUTH and the only real Church and life philosophy/ideology/religion.
Because Mr. Jefferson and his gang were all Protestants (no concept of absolute truth) they could not/failed to connect the dots. And that coincidentally did lead to another major failure. This time to one which actually made it to the Constitution of the USA. Yes, that little blurb about the "Freedom of religion". Although they were very much aware of Islam, and fairly well educated on the topic, they failed to see that the State cannot possibly grant the "Freedom of Religion" to any religion, which has only one goal; to destroy the host State.
Yes, I am still talking about Islam here. They, the Founding fathers failed to make the distinction. Probably just an omission, but forward 200 years, incredibly costly omission. Isn't it crazy to give a convicted pedophile rapist and murderer freedom to roam local parks, because after all everybody else has that "freedom".
Did
anybody noticed lately that the politics of the government is directly related
to the philosophy embraced by the "El Presidente" and the members of his cabinet?
How it wonderfully changed when the first time in the US history a White billionaire moved into the public housing vacated by the Black family. WHY IS IT, iz zee question.
Why the change? Maybe because the two men, well one man and one girly something .....raving homo and his man wife, subscribe to different Religions? One semi-Christian and one radical commie Community organizer and Musloid. Would you say that might have affected, and for ever will their respective decisions? How do you exactly separate from your-self?
The Religion, Ideology, Philosophy (RIP), it was the Lefty “enlightened philosophers” who separated meaning of those words for obvious reasons. “We the progressive philosophers, we cannot possibly be associated with any kind of Religion” ……. simply a demented illogical statement. The fact of life is; nobody who aspire to be a human could possibly separate himself, how he expresses himself in daily life, every one of his actions and thoughts from his RIP, no matter what meaning he personally ascribes to those words.
Of course, during the last century, a new "animal" emerged; the pure Darwinian concept; the physical appearance of man, which nevertheless could change its RIP at will, with the daily prevailing winds. In other words the member of new progressive left.
Remember when in the 90s of last century the Jews were the designated victim group du jour. Well, that did changed rather radically. Now the Jews are the villain extraordinaire, and our inordinately sheep loving Musloid friends are the designated victims of the day, no matter the murder and mayhem they carry as religious past time for the last 1400 years. Aaaah, details. The level of ridiculous reached a new level.
Or even better; "we love you Donald, we love you"......we hear from the trendy crowd, while Donald in question was firing poor schmucks on TV. Funny exactly the very same Donald who obliterated their beloved Killary, in a very regular elections is considered by the same carbon based living forms to be now a certifiable Adolf. Hail!
Unfortunately, this mental malfunction affects many who claim to be on the Right, too. There is a sure and easy way to get there. Only what one need to do is to reject the founding RIP of this civilization. Some considerable time back somebody said; "Without me you can do nothing" .......aaaah yes, that was that Jesus guy again. Did you check how the things are going lately? without him? In the only Church/Religion he established.
Why the change? Maybe because the two men, well one man and one girly something .....raving homo and his man wife, subscribe to different Religions? One semi-Christian and one radical commie Community organizer and Musloid. Would you say that might have affected, and for ever will their respective decisions? How do you exactly separate from your-self?
The Religion, Ideology, Philosophy (RIP), it was the Lefty “enlightened philosophers” who separated meaning of those words for obvious reasons. “We the progressive philosophers, we cannot possibly be associated with any kind of Religion” ……. simply a demented illogical statement. The fact of life is; nobody who aspire to be a human could possibly separate himself, how he expresses himself in daily life, every one of his actions and thoughts from his RIP, no matter what meaning he personally ascribes to those words.
Of course, during the last century, a new "animal" emerged; the pure Darwinian concept; the physical appearance of man, which nevertheless could change its RIP at will, with the daily prevailing winds. In other words the member of new progressive left.
Remember when in the 90s of last century the Jews were the designated victim group du jour. Well, that did changed rather radically. Now the Jews are the villain extraordinaire, and our inordinately sheep loving Musloid friends are the designated victims of the day, no matter the murder and mayhem they carry as religious past time for the last 1400 years. Aaaah, details. The level of ridiculous reached a new level.
Or even better; "we love you Donald, we love you"......we hear from the trendy crowd, while Donald in question was firing poor schmucks on TV. Funny exactly the very same Donald who obliterated their beloved Killary, in a very regular elections is considered by the same carbon based living forms to be now a certifiable Adolf. Hail!
Unfortunately, this mental malfunction affects many who claim to be on the Right, too. There is a sure and easy way to get there. Only what one need to do is to reject the founding RIP of this civilization. Some considerable time back somebody said; "Without me you can do nothing" .......aaaah yes, that was that Jesus guy again. Did you check how the things are going lately? without him? In the only Church/Religion he established.
And so,
we have a rather refreshing bunch of more or less certifiable Catholics in the US Government now. Funny how
the politics changed. Suddenly the VP could find time to join “March for Life”,
but no time to join Madona in her dreams to blow up the White House, and we did not
catch Mrs. Trump to wear hijab, yet. So
how exactly would one separate from his RIP? How the State could be separated
from the Church? Only if the whole government is Atheist……and by now, at least
those who still posses an ability of logical reasoning, should know where that
road is leading. Of course if every member of the Government is Atheist......how exactly are they going to separate themselves from their Church of Atheism? Funny how everything relates to ....well, everything in this world.
Oh, well......I guess I failed to realise that there is only one Church we want to separate from; The original and only Christian Church also known as the Catholic Church. This is bit of the topic; but did you notice how retarded lefties who want to separate themselves and the State from the Church fully embraced the Islam? We banned any expression of Christianity from our school and then gave Musloids rooms to pray................But well they are retarded after all.
Long 8 years ago, when that enemy of America, the certified traitor extraordinaire was elected by the deranged electorate, some of my friends were making excuses; “Well, he won but he will be out in four years guaranteed”. A serious lack of understanding how progressive ultra left is working, hence they did not believe me that Obama will be the two term President, and what will come after will be even worse. They could not understand how much damage will be inflicted in the first 4 years, not to mention the second. They all were groomed to believe in that insanity of “separation”, hence it is difficult to get perspective where the particular RIP enforced by your government might take you. Truly the election of Trump is a true anomaly. I was definitely correct that in what was intended by the Globalist crowd to replace Obama with was much worse, and I was wrong in that I did not anticipate a small miracle at the time. It might be considered vulgar, but can truth be vulgar? hence I can say; the Satanist bitch lost and the USA got a temporary reprieve.
The true war for the survival of the USA is only coming. And again, it will be naturally a fight along the lines of RIP the actors embrace. It cannot be any other way it cannot be "separated", and it will be an utter mess. Christians and hopelessly divided by 40000 heretic sects. Musloids even when killing other Musloids are united in their basic desire to kill all infidels. After all while Darwinistic lefties are claiming that Man and monkey have "common" ancestors, it might be rather difficult to explain why the Mano has capability of logical reasoning which comes, and is inseparable from The Conscience. The conscience is a result of the simple fact that the Man has God given soul. No soul, no conscience, no rational logical reasoning. Of course there is exemption to every rule; socialist lefty morons, clearly are descendants from a monkey.
So clearly Obama and Trump are proof that "Separation of Church and State" is an utter nonsense. The only question is; WHOS AND WHAT CHURCH, we are trying to separate from.
Deus Vult


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